i prefer in neutral
Never drive a car in neutral on a slope. Use the reverse gear to reverse the car downhill. The engine will naturally limit the rpm in gear and cause what is called “engine braking” reducing the load on the brakes.
You should NEVER move your car in neutral, especially in the hills. If you want to reverse downhill, engage reverse gear and use the brakes to modulate your descent. Remember that your car is far safer when in the 1st and the reverse gears than in neutral.
Thank sir, Is it ok to reverse downhill on 1st gear or 2nd gear also?
how will you reverse in frst grear?? it will switch off
Jayanth, like Dev says, shift into reverse and take your foot off the accelerator gradually and let the reverse gear limit the speed of descent. if needed apply brakes to further control speed.
It’s not ok to reverse in 1st or 2nd gear because in that gear you have to press the clutch to allow it to go in reverse and that’s as good as reversing…[Read more]
ALWAYS reverse in REVERSE gear only. If you have to go downhill in reverse, engage reverse gear and release the clutch, using the brake to modulate your speed. DON’T keep the car in neutral as you could lose control if speed picks up and brakes don’t hold. Also DON’T keep it in first or second gear and press the clutch and let it slide back,…[Read more]
power wise in petrol the best buy would be the city, and in diesel the fluidic verna …. but considering the cost of top variant of verna, a rapid would fulfill all the needs …. now considering your demand, a linea would suit you the best, accounting, the power too … the best buy would be a linea (in diesel) …… cheers !!!
The car you need is a Honda City or a Linea T Jet.
Nikhil and Devdath, Thanks a lot for your lightenig quick responses! Makes me kick myself for not crossing this website all these days.
Rapid/Vento has a very good suspension and handling, although on the stiffer side. The Linea has the best suspension and balance of all sedans available today. But diesel versions of all the above cars will never give you a cabin as quiet as a petrol like Honda City. But, the City’s suspension and ground clearance are pathetic. You will have to…[Read more]
The simple answer is the Ford Fiesta. It has the most sorted ride and handling package and has the best refinement and sound insulation in its class as well as in the class above. Petrol as well as diesel.
I would take the Linea, second option would be the Fiesta, these two cars are definitely better than other options in the 10L category for your priorities. Regards.
Thanks a bunch to all those who have kindly responded. My average usage would be around 600km/month + occassional highway trips of 600km each may be 3-4 times a year. So thinking a petrol sedan would very much do. From the looks of it City, Linea, Fiesta and to some extent Rapid seems to be the recommendations. From the reviews that I saw on the…[Read more]
If that is the case, go for the Linea TJet and switch to Michelin Primacy LC or Yokohama dB Decibel tires
Any ideas why Linea has such poor sales despite such great feedback on ride and handling? after sales service?
Fiat is poor at marketing and most people (with partial or no knowledge about Fiat) love to find something to bash Fiat.
Fiat has just one authorized service in Chennai center and it’s light years away from where i live. On further thinking about A.S.S, i think it might be better to go with a Honda City or a Ford Fiesta due to service center proximity as an added advantage. I have been driving a Ford ikon 1.3L petrol for over 9 years now and i am very happy with…[Read more]
FIAT seem to make a few changes in the way it runs the show. Looks like it has said bye-bye to Tata. Hopefully this makes things better for FIAT-likers. http://www.fiat-india.com/docs/pdf/FIAT_Press_Release_Mumbai_10th_April2013.pdf
Hi, if you are comfortable with Ford, the Fiesta is a very good car, on a product to product comparison it would come out better than the City or the Verna. It is very nimble and handling is also noticeably better than competition. If you are comparing it to the Beat or the Ikon, it will be a very large step over refinement, power, handling, space…[Read more]
I still haven’t ruled out Linea for now, but it’s disappointing to see feedback about ‘niggles’. Even in the team-bhp review many niggles were reported even in a new car. Once I notice a niggle, I usually can’t sleep until i get it fixed – that’s my problem!. I hope FIAT comes with more service centers soon. Some of the reviews of City on YouTube…[Read more]
City has excellent NVH(just some road noise, which can easily be corrected by better rubber). As does the Fiesta, which is best in class in my book.
hi Shreyans, Thanks for your quick response! What would be your order of rating for petrol sedans when it comes to NVH+Ride? My day to day usage of the car would be very less (less than 20-30 mins each way) and that’s why a petrol, but I need a car that is very pleasant/comfortable to be in for my elderly parents during long drives. I am very much…[Read more]
Hi, how many ownership reviews mentioned consistent issues with the Linea? Here is a dedicated Indian Fiat forum if you want to read Linea reviews from owners – http://www.teamfiat.com/ Most people on Teambhp who crib about Fiats are not writing ownership reports, they are just commenting without owning one. BTW, two of the most known vehicles on…[Read more]
If I were to rate the petrol sedans in order of in-cabin refinement, It would be 1.Fiesta 2.City/Verna 3. Linea 4. Sunny 5.Vento/Rapid 6. SX4. Agree with Amit, Fiat makes the toughest and the most abuse friendly cars, and that the make has unnecessarily poor reputation. You want a car that your elderly parents will find comfortable. For that, you…[Read more]
Amit and Shreyans, Thanks a bunch for your quick responses! Yes, ingress and egress are also important for elderly. But since they travel once in 1-2 monthsI haven’t put in a higher priority (than ride/NVH) for now. I am guessing those 1-2 mins of inconvenience might be ok as a compromise for 4-6 hrs of peaceful ride. For me SX4′s above rating…[Read more]
Amit, what would be your ratings for those 3 (or others) on NVH + ride, if I may ask?
See, among these petrol cars, you will not mind the NVH on any of them, provided you are running proper quality tires. Its just that a couple of them happen to be really refined. In case you want a longer TD, its is best that you ask them to bring the car home. They will then not be in a position to dictate the route or length of the test drive.
I am of the same opinion as Shreyans. The NVH of all three will be at par, a proper TD with enough time to check out things and different types of road conditions should give you the answer. Check other virtues in your list such as rear bench comfort, handling, steering feel, behavior on bad roads or bumps etc. These things should help you to…[Read more]
Shreayans and Amit, Thank you once again. When i bought Chevy Beat I did try a few cars where in they brought the cars to my office for TD. But they were in a hurry and their body language wasn’t great when i asked for high speed test But yes, this time I will tell them up front what my TD needs are. Thanks to both of you for your time and…[Read more]
Heard the news about likely updates to Linea around June this year. The only dealer in chennai wasn’t revealing much and said they themselves aren’t given much info as of now. So planning to wait until june end so I can TD all the likely candidates around the same time for better judgement. Prior to that interaction with Fiat, I had contacted Ford…[Read more]
Boss, you don’t need to tell them anything. Just ask them to bring the car to your home or office for a TD. That’s it. Once they are at your place, they are just not in a position to dictate terms.
The ideal vehicle is the Altis AT. Most reliable machine that is very comfortable, quite well equipped and surprisingly economical. Also, it is really refined and good to drive, with 7 presets on the CVT gearbox. The Merc A will be a hatchback. Its driving experience will be far superior to the others but it will not be as spacious and then, its…[Read more]
The current “all-rounder” is the Elantra AT, a safe choice and also sells the most, followed by the Altis. If you want a classy car, its the Jetta, though the Laura is very good as well but its not so spacious. If you want power, its the Cruze. The Fluence is comfortable and rides well but its a tad underpowered and hardly sells. I have no clue…[Read more]
I would go with the Elantra AT as the primary all-round choice here, followed by the Chevrolet Cruze and then the Toyota Altis AT. The Elantra primarily because of the gizmos and comfort it has. Cruze – only if you are an enthusiast and want that surge of power. The Toyota Altis AT is a very refined car and very sedate to drive. Among these…[Read more]
While my heart says the Laura, I would pick up the Elantra simply because it will ensure a pretty trouble free ownership experience being a Hyundai. However, the best car in the segment is the Laura.
Go for the Laura DSG. Amazing gearbox and power delivery. The only fly in the ointment is the service from Skoda, but I am hearing better reports about it these days. You could choose the Elantra as well, but, Hyundai service has been on the wane for a year or two now and Hyundai spares are now as expensive as Skoda. Personally, the Elantra is not…[Read more]
The Elantra AT is the overall winner amongst these choices. You could also look at the Cruze for it’s power and sportiness. I would stay away from the Civic, the Fluence for the dismal numbers they’re selling and the Merc A class for it’s high maintainence costs.
Yeah skoda is best in segment according to motor car , autocar cawale as skoda gives DSG gearbox which allows you to use automatic as well as manual transmission in one box and as you like driving then blindly choose skoda as it is best for people like drivin and gives excellent power and feels stronger while drivin
Depends on what you need. How many seats? How many kms per month will it run? On what kind of roads will it run? A few good choices however are, the Sunny/Scala sedans in diesel, the Linea T Jet and the City in petrol, The Scorpio and the Safari in SUVs and the Duster in crossovers.
go for Renault Duster
No such thing as “the” best car”. There is only “a best car for you”!
from these 3,Go for Verna and also consider Nissan Sunny…:)
Only the Vento satisfies all your requirements. Especially on the highway the Vento drives like a dream – second only to the Linea in my opinion. The in-gear acceleration of the Tdi on the Vento beats every car in its segment (except its twin the Skoda Rapid), pretty useful when you are overtaking in tight situations.
but after taking test drive i found that there is some similarity in the initial pick up of city and vento!!!! but how is the ivtec on highway in comparison with the city?????? suggestions plzzzzz
^…comparision with the vento
try doing this experiment – keep in 4th gear and drop ur speed to around 30-40kmph with both cars and then slam on the accelerator and see what happens:-) both the city and vento will start to pull, but the vento will leave the city faar behind. the city will eventually catch up once the engine revvs climb, but thats besides the point, the point…[Read more]
If I was in the same dilemma, I would have picked City over Vento and Rapid (Diesel). Its almost 2 lakhs cheaper and a practical choice. You get all the features too. Unless the highway is crammed with vehicles and you have to do a lot of overtaking, City can definitely match up to these cars. Like Hrishik mentioned, no substitution for driver judgement!
You have to take into account the rpm at a which these figures are produced. And the turbo lag and driveability factors as well. i20 CRDI is plagued by lag, which is the basic reason behind your observation. And the petrol really feels tied down by the electronics. Why a Bolero, your car will have a hard time keeping up with a well driven 65hp…[Read more]
Sir as you have explained here that BHP only does not matter RPM also plays a role here and some other too like said about Micra 65 Hp. Then my request question to you is WHAT ABOUT ENJOY ? It has only 77 BHP with 1200 kg of load and with 7-8 passengers on board with luggage what do you feel about that MPV, will it be at par with Ertiga or more…[Read more]
These are diesels, and have ample torque. Micra pulls because of the torque. Bolero climbs because of the torque. The only catch is the turbo lag. Enjoy should have lesser lag than the Ertiga.
The gravity vector through your car’s centre of gravity gets stronger as the upward slope increases. To compensate for this your car needs to develop higher torque (a directional force opposite to the resolved gravity vector). Also, typically on a slope your car will be slower either by choice or just due to incorrect driving – so a car that…[Read more]
I doubt if any petrol sedan can actually deliver 18 kmpl in realistic conditions unless the usage is mostly on the highway. The closest can be the Dzire since it is really light and has a 1.2L petrol engine.
Thanks Amit ji You r right but I am bit worried about the noise level in diesel and after 2 years maintenance I heard that Diesel machine requires more maintenance and I am willing to buy Skoda Rapid which is one step further in cost of maintenance and their (Skoda’s) Service is also very poor which I heard at the same time Skoda is claiming…[Read more]
No petrol sedan gives 18kms to a litre at the moment unlike current gen diesels.As amit said the closest would be the dzire as they have tweaked the engine to give better efficiency.even then expect 12-14 in city and 16+ on highways.if you want 18+ better buy a diesel car as almost all diesels give 14-16 in city and 20-23+ on the highways.Regards…
Joy I agree with you too, but My run is not more than 40 to 50 kms per day So I was Thinking of Petrol. please Advice
Bipin 50kms per day can e roughly around 1500kms.you should definetly go for a Dielse if running is above ~1200kms.
you should go for a diesel car…Verna diesel will be good for fuel efficiency
The diesel vs petrol question will lose its edge in a few months when diesel will be priced closer to petrol. The price differential you pay for a diesel over a petrol car will pay for the additional cost of fuel for 3-4 years. So you should go to the dealers take test drives of all cars that you like and choose the one that suits you best and has…[Read more]
Are you looking at petrol or diesel variants? I’d say go for the Rapid, although it doesn’t have the features that the Verna has or the service network it is essentially a more affordable Vento. The quality is good and feels much more classy than the Verna, more fun to drive too.
consider rapid if u need better driving experience & go for fluidic verna if u need more comforts,looks,features & better A.S.S
you go for verna
I d recommend the Vento. It is more fun to drive, well built and is a kind of timeless design.
you shoud go for verna
Devdath i disagree that Rapid is less fun than vento, its 0-100 quicker than the vento( plus lighter on the wallet by almost 50k ).. Germans are any day better than the Koreans!
I recommended the Rapid/Vento over the Verna Kashyap.
skoda rapid is more powerful than verna……….
Devdath it read ” I d recommend the Vento. It is more fun to drive, well built and is a kind of timeless design. ” realized now that you were pitting vento vs verna and not Vento vs Rapid! Am with you
The Rapid is a better car than the Verna if you are not a fan of the Verna’s bling features. The Rapid will also last many years and take abuse better than the Verna. Both cars are equally expensive to maintain.
1. Mileage of the Beat is noticeably higher than the Ritz. 2. Resale value – No one will guarantee, not even the dealer from whom you purchase. The recent VFM body styles (crossover, MUV) are gaining popularity. Will the Govt hold the subsidy for another 5 years, especially when the diesel rush is killing the Govt? I really don’t think a diesel…[Read more]
Between the two, the Beat would be more value for money, and will suit your purposes for a daily driver in Bangalore. The 3-year maintenance package is a good thing going for the Beat. Real mileage is 18 kmpl in city (Delhi – NCR) with AC, and should be about a km less in Bangalore. Highway drives – the Beat isn’t the ideal vehicle, not much…[Read more]
Beat diesel is more fuel efficient than Ritz diesel and also more value for money… Maruti cars can fetch you ‘slightly’ more resale value than Chevy cars. Maintenance is however, almost nil for 1st 3 years in Beat as you have to pay for abnormal things but if you think about long term usage and maintenance than Maruti’s maintenance is somewhere…[Read more]
I would also suggest Beat diesel, Its well built(Inside outside) and age well in the coming years + maintenance is not much to worry about. Engine is quite driveable in City traffic, although its not a rocket, it stays planted on highways at high speeds.
Beat diesel would give around 17-18 kmpl, while the Ritz would give you around 15-16 although official figures are higher. Beat diesel is priced lower by 50K than the Ritz plus the 3 year Chevrolet maintenance package is a sweet deal. So, eventually (over 2-3 years) the Beat would save you enough money to compensate for the marginally lower…[Read more]
Never use hair shampoo for the windscreen washer. Use Surf/Nirma instead. A couple of pinches at most. You can also use a solution of water and Colin. And never use regular tap water(hardness and scale tends to clog the lines). Use only RO or distilled water for both the windscreen washer as well as the radiator. I don’t use any shampoo for the…[Read more]
I have a person who cleans the car everyday from the outside, including the interiors on Sunday only. There is a visit to 3M for a foam wash before any important meet, which is usually anywhere between 1 to 3 months.
Shampoo is a very common substitute for it, I`d say use a proper windshield washer fluid, its not very expensive and works well with Drinking water. However avoid using the wiper+washer on a dry dusty windsheild, it will scratch the windsheild for sure. Splash some water over to wash away dirt and grime. Use Colin spray for highway runs in the…[Read more]
Sonax has a lot of products for just about every purpose for your car, visit one of the major supermarkets.
I have always felt that conditioning shampoos make the windscreen seem a bit hazy under oncoming headlights. No such issue with regular detergents.
Don’t use regular hair shampoos – as they contain oils which leave a film on the windscreen and make it hazy. If you can buy a proper windscreen wash concentrate at any supermarket (costs Rs. 90 or so) and add it with filter water / drinking water to the wash container. Or you can use drinking water with a drop of mild dish-wash detergent, not…[Read more]
what cloth to use to avoid scratches on the glass any special brand?? also what liquid to use for interier cleaning such as seat, dashboard, etc.
I would highly recommend the Jopasu duster and microfibre cloth for exterior dusting and washing. Formula 1 and Meguiars are good brands for interior detailers and cleaners but are slightly expensive as they are imported. Formula 1 has an entire range of car care products.
I avoid using cloth on windscreen and mirrors. Newspaper for me.